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Continued from part 3 - perhaps their

their lands have been sold by Rangitane in Ahu- o turanga block. Don't know who fixed boundaries of Rangitane land on this side of Manawatu. Ngati Raukawa had no land in Te Ahu - o - turanga. That is a long way up. I don't know anything about the boundary fixed for the sale by Hirawanu but I only know that Ngati Raukawa assented to the sale. Ngati Whakatene held land on this side of Manawatu near the land sold by Hirawanu also iwi beyond Ngati Whakatere and I suppose Ngati Whakatere and Hirawanu fixed the boundary. I don't know whether all the Ngati Upoko iwi land was sold in the sale by Hirawanu.

Ngati Te Ihi ihi on this side of manawatu, Ngati Kauhata on the Oroua side. I am quite clear that Ngati Apa or Rangitane have no land on this side of Manawatu.

I and Ihakara sold the Awahou block to the Government. Te Awahou belonged to us, it was Ngati Apa land formerly and we took it. There was no one on it and we took it. I heard that Ngati Apa had been driven away but when I came here I found Ngati apa were occupying.

We sold Awahou in 1858. We know that neither Ngati Apa nor Rangitane nor Ngati Upoko iwi had any 'mana' there. The only 'mana' that Ngati Awa may have had was the first who came here and was here before Ngati Raukawa.

Ngapuhi came only to kill. Ngati Awa came to kill and settle also. Ngati Awa had no right to sell. Ngati Toas 'Mana' was the same. They had nothing to do with the sale. Ngati Raukawa Kingi Te Aho aho and Nepia Aperahama and Horomona were at Rangitikei on that side and on this side at the time we were at Himatangi don't where they ceased.

It might be before 'Kuititanga' they were not cultivating at the time of sale of Rangitikei block. They had ceased a short time previously. Ngati Apa were living in 'pa's' on this side of Rangitikei at the time of the 'Kuititanga' . Ngati Apa had their own 'pa's' Tawhirihoe and after at Te Awahou at (Rangitikei) Te Awahou was a 'pa' which they continued to occupy, there were 'kainga mahi' between the two rivers, Muaupoko had 3 'pa's' at horowhenua on the lake. At the time of the sale of North Rangitikei in 1849 Ngati Apa had a 'pa' at Te Awahou, it was an old 'pa' not built at the time of the dispute. After the sale they continued to occupy.

Witness names cultivations on the bank of the river. Ngati Raukawa consented to the sale of the land North Rangitikei but I think it was a 'tito' a 'whakaae taurangi'.

Mr. McSean did apply to us for our consent. Ngati Raukawa did not have any of the money.

Ngati Raukawa did then say that they would hold on to this land for themselves. I sold all the land. I asked for a small place at Tawhirihoe for a small reserve of 500 acres and if he did not like to give it to me there then 1000 acres some where else.

Tawhirihoe was ours, which is the reason we asked for a reserve there. Ngati Apa sold the whole block and Rangitane also, Ngarauru and Whanganui was only 'whai noa mai'

Ngati Toa had a better right to give. Ngati Apa can say what right Whananui had. Ngati Apa had a claim because we were quarrelling over the land. They had none at Awahou because I was sole possession of that. The 1st lease of Te Awahou to mr. Robinson was by me. ngati apa asked to join us in that lease. i said "no! but you can ask the 'Pakeha' for some for yourself" We did not dispute.

I referred Ngati Apa to the 'Pakeha' and they did not apply to me again, perhaps it was because there was Rangitane proved heir 'mana' by taking Ngati Raukawa there to fight Ngati Apa, Ngati Apa have 'mana'.

The 'pa' Kapaahaka at Manawatu belonged to Te Puoho (Ngati Tama) and Te Purangi (Ngati Raukawa) Rangitane were living at their own places at Puketotara, and oter places, at the time of sale of Rangitikiei Manawatu.

By Mr. Fox

There were a great many Ngati Raukawa on the Rangitikei and on the Oroua and down to Parakaia's land, they were both living on Rangitane land.

The 'Mokai's I spoke of were stragglers which Ngati Raukawa picked up on the road. Remember the sale of Awahou block to New Zealand Company - New Zealand Company sale was not confirmed.

By Mr. Williams

The 'pou' of Matene was to mark the burial place of a Chief of ...(no name)... the land and post were sold at sale of Awahou.

By Court

Paratene and Parakaia and Te Raotea were left there when we left. Te Patu Kohuru were catching eels at Te Awahou when Ngati upoko iwi came to Manawatu. Ngati Apa got £500 of the sale of Awahou. Nepia also gave them £900. I think £2,500 was the price given for the block by 'Kainga Mahi' I mean the place where they went to cultivate and where they went to catch eels.

By Mr. Fox

With reference to Parakaia himself I am not clear that he had cultivations on the North side of Manawatu the year of the treaty. I know our cultivation were on the South side - others had cultivations on the North side.

Further hearing adjourned to Saturday April 11th

(Continued pp 594 in this book)

Court adjoured at 5pm

Court resumed at 8pm.

Present Thomas H. Smith - W. B. White - Judges

and same assessors

Hurihangataitoko No.2

Ururoa Ripia.

Continued from pp 249 (Continued from pp 569 see previous book)

Tamihana Te Rauparaha - Counter Claiment - Sworn.

Otaki - Ngati Toa, I appear as counter claimant, I apply for a grant of this land to myself (Witness identified land on plan).

I was present at the survey of this alnd. I claim this alnd as belonging to Te Hopenui who was a wife of Te Rauparaha. This land

End of part 4 - Continued in part 5.

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